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Wednesday, October 03, 2007

Wishful thinking...

In reporting the Mewelde Moore trade inquiry from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I intentionally ignored another speculative report on a blog that the Bucs were trying to get LT Bryant McKinnie and RB Chester Taylor.

There are a lot of wild rumors that fly, and we don't want to get in the habit of giving them any more life by even mentioning them.

But think of it this way: if the Vikings wanted a first-day pick for Moore (a former fourth-round pick who is third on the depth chart), what do you think the price would be for McKinnie (former seventh overall pick and starter at key position) and/ or Taylor (1,200-yard rusher with reasonable contract)?

To get those two players, Bucs GM Bruce Allen would have to give up at least two first-round picks, some other draft picks and a kidney.

Despite the shaky play of the Vikings offensive line, McKinnie is still one of the better left tackles in the game, and he is in his prime. As for Taylor, he is a productive and versatile player who is in the second of a four-year, $14.1 million deal.

While the Vikings are at it, why don't they throw in LB E.J. Henderson?

Here's a question for my faithful readers: Which Vikings player is the most untouchable, in terms of a trade?


Blogger jc said...

Naturally one would say Adrian Peterson, but most untouchable.... Marcus Johnson because they couldn't give him away!

9:14 AM  
Blogger firechildress said...

Adrian Peterson in untouchable. Kevin Williams in untouchable. Sidney Rice is untouchable. Chad Greenway is untouchable. Those are the cornerstones of our franchise for a long time. Pretty much everyone else is fair game.

1:37 PM  
Blogger Steve said...

Sean, I think Birk, Hutch, and Kevin K. Williams are all untouchable. Chilli wants to win by controlling the offensive and defensive lines. Plus think all 3 are great leaders which is more difficult to find these days.

2:37 PM  
Blogger MJ said...

I would have to say Kevin Willaimas and Adrian Peterson are the only two. Kevin is the cornerstone of the defense and Adrian is your only playmaker on offense. There are others that it would take a lot to get, but these two guys it would take a Herschel Walker type deal.

3:16 PM  
Blogger MJ said...

To say Syney Rice is untouchable is obsurd. He is a second round pick who has done little so far. He may improve, but is easily tradable for the right player/draft picks.

3:19 PM  
Blogger Sean Jensen said...

No love for T-Jack? Or E.J. Henderson? Or Winfield? Wow.

3:27 PM  
Blogger MJ said...

T-Jack, really??? E.J. may be close. As for Winfield, when Champ Bailey gets traded it is hard to call Winfield Untouchable.

4:05 PM  
Blogger BearsPaw said...

How about a little optimism? But for an experienced and talented quarterback the vikes would now be 4 and 0. The games that were lost were lost by but a single score. T-jack is the man. He just needs more time. Mewelde Moore is a great back but the Vikes don't have to have him. He is worth a lot but he can be traded.

8:19 PM  
Blogger Paul said...

this is an interesting question...the way i look at it you have to decide if you are willing to be patient with the QB position or not. Let's face it we knew the situation at QB for a while and did nothing about it but get another career backup for a rookie 2nd round if we are in the wait mode everyone is open for discussion except AP on offense and EJ/k.williams on defense. these guys are our icons/stars. in this mode of thinking, we have a lot of attractive pieces to trade for picks or emerging stars...(aka Visanthe Shiancoe)..haha ya good one. i just feel sorry for good veteran players like winfield, p. williams, sharper, birk, hutch...etc. that are just playing out the sting with no chance of winning it all. we would most likely trade the talented vets and keep the young guns like greenway, rice, robison,edwards..etc. the end result would be blackouts and a 24 hour purple suicide watch.

on the other hand...if they simply fill the QB position with someone who can make a few plays we are not too far away....just look at green bay...the purple is filled with more talent on both sides of the ball but is infantile at the
qb position...arguably the most important positon on the field. t-jack may still be good, but not for a few more years...personally i am not willing to wait for him...i am of the mentality that he has to catch up, step up and earn it beating out a proven guy...not named bollinger or holcolm.

10:35 PM  
Blogger Andrew E. said...

MJ: You've got to consider the contractual situation as well; the Champ was going to hold out and got the highest (at that time) CB contract ever. With the recent increases in Ks, Hutch's deal is thrifty and Winny's is a steal. So while the Champ is the best corner in football, Winfield is untradeable because of his current K.

McKinnie is untradeable because of his position. There simply aren't enough human beings that have the physical ability to play LT, so it would be absurd to trade him--especially because OL age more gracefully than any other position. The same argument applies almost as well to the Williams brothers--especially given what 93's extension was for, and what Cory freakin' Redding received.

At the end of the day, it depends on the trade. If Manning or Brady were offered, I would trade the entire starting defence. It's an exceptional unit, but without a qb (and with Childress/Bevell's awful game-planning, game management and play calling) we're going to win 4 games. The Colts defence is Freeney, Bobby, and nine other guys from a bus stop, and they're one of the two teams that will win the Supe this year.

10:04 AM  
Blogger ADL said...

Don't be to harsh on Sidney Rice. How many opportunities has he had with the viking poor quarterbacks and coaching calls

10:16 AM  
Blogger dame311 said...

I'd trade Birk for a Sunday Paper (Pioneer Press of course) and a popcorn tin from Candyland.

Any trade that we would go into would have to involve Brad Childress of its simply a waste of time.

2:06 AM  

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